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no need to apologize.
i'm glad she is.
she put reverb in his place, and i just wish i'd been there to watch it.
not exactly the easiest thing to work into a conversation, nope.
do you know what causes doppelgangers in your world?
wait this girl has a doppelganger AND an evil twin? like separate ones?
and by evil twin you mean like, a twin twin. born at the same time to the same mom, not a clone or enchantment or... i don't know.
what do you mean triggered by violence?
is it a magic thing or a brain chemistry thing?
anytime man.
i'm glad she is.
she put reverb in his place, and i just wish i'd been there to watch it.
not exactly the easiest thing to work into a conversation, nope.
do you know what causes doppelgangers in your world?
wait this girl has a doppelganger AND an evil twin? like separate ones?
and by evil twin you mean like, a twin twin. born at the same time to the same mom, not a clone or enchantment or... i don't know.
what do you mean triggered by violence?
is it a magic thing or a brain chemistry thing?
anytime man.
Edited 2016-10-18 01:52 (UTC)
I do. Very long story short: A warlock named Silas was supposed to marry a witch named Qetsiyah. Silas asked Qetsiyah to make an immortality elixir so that they'd live together forever. Qetsiyah agreed. What she didn't know?
Silas actually loved her handmaiden Amara, and Silas and Amara drank the potion together. When Qetsiyah found out, she was pissed. So pissed that she killed Amara before Amara could drink it and "anchored" her to the Other Side (or supernatural purgatory). Silas wandered the earth alone, never to find his lover because she was neither alive nor dead.
Since nature loves finding a balance, a doppelganger is born from Silas's line and from Amara's line every 500 years. Elena and Katherine are from Amara's line, and Caroline's best friend is from Silas's.
Nooooo. Not separate, sorry. Katherine and Silas are grade-A douchebags and identical copies of Elena and Caroline's best friend. Hence "evil twin."
IDK. I want to say brain chemistry but I'm not good with science.
If you know someone who is? I'm willing to test that theory.
Silas actually loved her handmaiden Amara, and Silas and Amara drank the potion together. When Qetsiyah found out, she was pissed. So pissed that she killed Amara before Amara could drink it and "anchored" her to the Other Side (or supernatural purgatory). Silas wandered the earth alone, never to find his lover because she was neither alive nor dead.
Since nature loves finding a balance, a doppelganger is born from Silas's line and from Amara's line every 500 years. Elena and Katherine are from Amara's line, and Caroline's best friend is from Silas's.
Nooooo. Not separate, sorry. Katherine and Silas are grade-A douchebags and identical copies of Elena and Caroline's best friend. Hence "evil twin."
IDK. I want to say brain chemistry but I'm not good with science.
If you know someone who is? I'm willing to test that theory.
is that a thing it's doing these days?
what books?
and why do you think they're for me?
what books?
and why do you think they're for me?
well we can just file that under 'reasons not to cheat on a witch'
the whole story kinda reminds me of my ex, but for her it was a reincarnation thing, not a doppelganger thing.
is there any way of distinguishing between doppelgangers? i mean apart from how they act. do you have any kind of spell, or device...?
[ Tyler might not be good with science, may not think that such a solution would be possible, but Cisco is used to using science to navigate deep, strange, mysterious weirdness. That's like, 70% of his life these days. ]
me and harry and caitlin have got some experience in investigating powers
okay a lot of experience
if you ever wanted to come by and let us run a couple tests, you could
maybe we should get that coffee first though
the whole story kinda reminds me of my ex, but for her it was a reincarnation thing, not a doppelganger thing.
is there any way of distinguishing between doppelgangers? i mean apart from how they act. do you have any kind of spell, or device...?
[ Tyler might not be good with science, may not think that such a solution would be possible, but Cisco is used to using science to navigate deep, strange, mysterious weirdness. That's like, 70% of his life these days. ]
me and harry and caitlin have got some experience in investigating powers
okay a lot of experience
if you ever wanted to come by and let us run a couple tests, you could
maybe we should get that coffee first though
Not that I remember. It would've come in handy.
[He's not doubting the possibility of one. He's just never seen it.]
!!!!
That would be really great, if you're all okay with it.
Coffee sounds good. We can talk more then?
[He's not doubting the possibility of one. He's just never seen it.]
!!!!
That would be really great, if you're all okay with it.
Coffee sounds good. We can talk more then?
[ That is not at all the answer that Cisco was expecting. And it means that it was Jon, who saw something he knew was meant to be a gift, and thought of Cisco as someone he would give a gift to. It's surprising, and flattering, and quite sweet actually. ]
dude, thank you. that is so nice.
i would love to read them, what are they about?
i should find you some books from my world, too, if you want
i mean if you're interested
dude, thank you. that is so nice.
i would love to read them, what are they about?
i should find you some books from my world, too, if you want
i mean if you're interested
Places in my world. I can't say more than that or I'll ruin the surprise. I'd like to read books from your world too.
[wonders and wonders made by man. each section carries with it the feelings, scents and sounds associated with the place described, as per bookshop tradition. they're also printed and bound with modern methods, though the illustrations resemble medieval manuscripts.]
[wonders and wonders made by man. each section carries with it the feelings, scents and sounds associated with the place described, as per bookshop tradition. they're also printed and bound with modern methods, though the illustrations resemble medieval manuscripts.]
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alright alright no spoilers, i get it.
are you more into fiction or nonfiction?
[ Cisco is already coming up with ideas - what might Jon think of something like Lord of the Rings, or a book about Vikings, or an Agatha Christie novel? ]
are you more into fiction or nonfiction?
[ Cisco is already coming up with ideas - what might Jon think of something like Lord of the Rings, or a book about Vikings, or an Agatha Christie novel? ]
any particular areas of interest?
like should i get you stuff about military history or whatever?
i know a few good biographies.
maybe a general world history textbook though i gotta warn you those things are biased as hell
like should i get you stuff about military history or whatever?
i know a few good biographies.
maybe a general world history textbook though i gotta warn you those things are biased as hell
Hey Cisco.
This is kind of crazy. I just realized that I've been here, in this place, for a year now. Not to the day or anything, when I got here we didn't have any way to keep time, but it's close.
This is kind of crazy. I just realized that I've been here, in this place, for a year now. Not to the day or anything, when I got here we didn't have any way to keep time, but it's close.
Hey, so...if I wanted to chat theories about this place and the who-what-how-why-when's of it all, who would be the best one to go to?
[She thinks it's him, personally. They'd touched on some theory stuff back when she first showed up and she'd been meaning to follow up with him about it. But opening up with something sounding like she was accusing him of being a conspiracy theorist didn't seem like the best plan, so she went a slightly different route.]
[She thinks it's him, personally. They'd touched on some theory stuff back when she first showed up and she'd been meaning to follow up with him about it. But opening up with something sounding like she was accusing him of being a conspiracy theorist didn't seem like the best plan, so she went a slightly different route.]
[ How could he possibly say no to that? ]
got it
i think i can do that.
got it
i think i can do that.
!!!!!!!!!!!
holy shit
that's crazy
i'm surprised the clock didn't give you some kind of overly cheerful card or cake or something like that
seems like that would fit its sense of humor
[ A minute passes, and then Cisco has an idea. A wonderful, brilliant, lightbulb-over-the-head idea. Hastily, he texts: ]
hypothetical question
if you had a magic mirror you could use to check up on central city and see how things were going there, would you look in it?
holy shit
that's crazy
i'm surprised the clock didn't give you some kind of overly cheerful card or cake or something like that
seems like that would fit its sense of humor
[ A minute passes, and then Cisco has an idea. A wonderful, brilliant, lightbulb-over-the-head idea. Hastily, he texts: ]
hypothetical question
if you had a magic mirror you could use to check up on central city and see how things were going there, would you look in it?
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not to brag or anything but probably me
even tho i'm not sure that's actually bragging
just means i've been here a depressingly long time without finding a way out
you could also talk to harry but he's a bit
um
well
did you have that grumpy cat meme, in your universe?
even tho i'm not sure that's actually bragging
just means i've been here a depressingly long time without finding a way out
you could also talk to harry but he's a bit
um
well
did you have that grumpy cat meme, in your universe?
I mean, knowledge is power, etc...
It's not the worst thing to be informed.
Are there worlds that DON'T have grumpy cat? Because that's just sad.
Omg you have a grumpy cat friend?
I have a grumpy old bear boss back home.
It's not the worst thing to be informed.
Are there worlds that DON'T have grumpy cat? Because that's just sad.
Omg you have a grumpy cat friend?
I have a grumpy old bear boss back home.
Right? It feels like it's been forever, but no time at all at the same time.
I'm kind of glad it didn't. That would be pretty creepy.
[For all that Eddie is coming across pretty cheerful, he's also a little pensive about the whole thing. A year since he died.]
Hypothetical?
I mean. Yeah, I think I would.
I'm kind of glad it didn't. That would be pretty creepy.
[For all that Eddie is coming across pretty cheerful, he's also a little pensive about the whole thing. A year since he died.]
Hypothetical?
I mean. Yeah, I think I would.
well. happy clockiversary, babe.
[ A few moments later, Cisco checks: ]
you sure?
it wouldn't depress you or anything?
[ Cisco knows that asking this follow-up is going to make it even more clear that he's not really talking about hypotheticals, but he wants to make sure this is the right choice. He's overly afraid of his powers hurting the people he cares about - one way or another - and it's not always easy for him to predict what is going to trigger Eddie's feelings of self-loathing and despair. ]
[ A few moments later, Cisco checks: ]
you sure?
it wouldn't depress you or anything?
[ Cisco knows that asking this follow-up is going to make it even more clear that he's not really talking about hypotheticals, but he wants to make sure this is the right choice. He's overly afraid of his powers hurting the people he cares about - one way or another - and it's not always easy for him to predict what is going to trigger Eddie's feelings of self-loathing and despair. ]
Thanks. (And, by the way, happy 9 month anniversary to us, too.)
[Eddie doesn't do Cisco the disservice of just blithely answering that question. He takes his time and puts some thought into it - both of them have a lot of baggage around hurting each other, and the last thing he wants is to hurt Cisco if his hypothetical is not so hypothetical. Which he suspects is the case.
So he thinks. The second text comes a few moments later.]
I don't think it would depress me. I might be sad, in a bittersweet kind of way, because I've missed out on so much. But my life here has been so good and so full despite everything that's happened, because of the friends I've made and because of my relationship with you, that I don't think I would feel too hurt.
I doubt I'd choose anything that happened there over what's happened here.
[Eddie doesn't do Cisco the disservice of just blithely answering that question. He takes his time and puts some thought into it - both of them have a lot of baggage around hurting each other, and the last thing he wants is to hurt Cisco if his hypothetical is not so hypothetical. Which he suspects is the case.
So he thinks. The second text comes a few moments later.]
I don't think it would depress me. I might be sad, in a bittersweet kind of way, because I've missed out on so much. But my life here has been so good and so full despite everything that's happened, because of the friends I've made and because of my relationship with you, that I don't think I would feel too hurt.
I doubt I'd choose anything that happened there over what's happened here.
true dat
hey i've met people here from worlds that don't have the internet at all. or electricity or indoor plumbing for that matter. we're talking full tolkien.
i do. in fact he is such a grumpy cat that i named my actual cat, who has a tendency towards grumpiness herself, after him.
ok but like how grumpy
do you mean grumbles if you try to leave ten minutes early grumpy or
throws things when he gets in a bad mood like a damn four year old grumpy?
cuz harry's definitely the latter.
hey i've met people here from worlds that don't have the internet at all. or electricity or indoor plumbing for that matter. we're talking full tolkien.
i do. in fact he is such a grumpy cat that i named my actual cat, who has a tendency towards grumpiness herself, after him.
ok but like how grumpy
do you mean grumbles if you try to leave ten minutes early grumpy or
throws things when he gets in a bad mood like a damn four year old grumpy?
cuz harry's definitely the latter.
oh my god, you're right, it is.
how are you so good at remembering this stuff??
[ Cisco doesn't respond at once, either, but it's not because he's considering anything. A wave of emotion hits him when Eddie says he doesn't think he'd choose Central City over being here with Cisco. And Cisco knows him well enough to know just how much that means, how deep a compliment and statement of love it really is. When he collects himself, he types back. ]
in that case, um, surprise, totally have an anniversary surprise for you.
meet me at the workshop?
& bring your badge. promise there's a reason
how are you so good at remembering this stuff??
[ Cisco doesn't respond at once, either, but it's not because he's considering anything. A wave of emotion hits him when Eddie says he doesn't think he'd choose Central City over being here with Cisco. And Cisco knows him well enough to know just how much that means, how deep a compliment and statement of love it really is. When he collects himself, he types back. ]
in that case, um, surprise, totally have an anniversary surprise for you.
meet me at the workshop?
& bring your badge. promise there's a reason
Edited 2016-11-17 04:16 (UTC)
I don't know. An eye for detail, I guess. And I have way fewer numbers crowding my mind than my genius boyfriend. <3
Really? Wow. I don't know what to say, babe.
Be there in 5.
[And he is. There's nothing particularly going on, and if Cisco wants him, he's going to go. And at this point he's comfortable enough with the younger man that he just pulls on a pair of sneakers and goes in jeans and a T-shirt, with his hair loose. He snags the police badge from his side table, and is at the door in around 7 minutes, knocks out a pattern of taps idly against the door to let Cisco know he's here.]
Really? Wow. I don't know what to say, babe.
Be there in 5.
[And he is. There's nothing particularly going on, and if Cisco wants him, he's going to go. And at this point he's comfortable enough with the younger man that he just pulls on a pair of sneakers and goes in jeans and a T-shirt, with his hair loose. He snags the police badge from his side table, and is at the door in around 7 minutes, knocks out a pattern of taps idly against the door to let Cisco know he's here.]
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