being smart and being discreet aren't always the same thing.
i just don't want you underestimating him. like, you gotta know right now i'm 100% sure he reads everything on the network. like EVERYTHING.
[ Cisco wants to say that he's half-convinced Eobard has or will find a way to read private messages and personal inboxes, too, but even he recognizes that is baseless paranoia talking. ]
no offense, dude, but you don't seem like a guy who's good at keeping dangerous secrets.
[ Neither does Rory. Snart, well. Cisco isn't as worried about him accidentally blowing the whole thing. He might talk a lot of shit but he is deliberate about it. ]
your 'usually' didn't apply. you trusted him and you were wrong.
doesn't surprise me he jumped at the chance to help you. that's totally his m.o. find someone who's hurting or vulnerable and make them trust him and feel like they owe him. then he can use them however he wants.
[ Fuck. Does he really have to do this speech. Really. Does he have to go over it again? Then again, Caitlin should definitely not have to go through that. Barry either. And Harry just plain won't so. Looks like it's Cisco's job. ]
you could say that.
also, he's a complete psycho.
and he played us. just like eobard. you'd think we would've learned the first time. but instead of doing that, we trusted him. he was part of the team. he showed up and said he was the flash on earth-2 and we just believed him. he said he was a hero, but it turned out, not so much.
[ It's about 10 minutes before Cisco texts back, because he needs to relocate his chill first. Texting in anger is never a good idea and he's been trying to work on that, generally. Plus, he's already let poor Ray be the brunt of his misdirected anger way too many times. ]
i think it's a lot easier to make that choice from where you're standing. being betrayed like that is something that's never happened to you.
it's happened to me and caitlin and barry TWICE so please do me a favor and don't say shit like that to them. i know you, so i know you don't mean it like that, but it sounds really self-righteous.
i didn't tell you about zoom because i wanted a pep talk about the virtues of learning to trust again, ok? i just... told you because i felt bad about not telling you about dr. wells.
well then, talk about something you can talk about.
look i'm not trying to pressure you here, seriously, but you can't have it both ways. you can't accuse me of not knowing stuff about you and then refuse to tell me literally anything about you.
and i mean if i had my way i'd never talk about dr. wells or jay ever again but it's not like i have the luxury of that choice.
you're the one who's preaching the gospel of trust, but i'm the one with all my dirty laundry and shit out in the open and you just get to say 'no thanks'?
if sometime you actually honestly feel like opening up and talking to me about stuff, as a friend, you know that i'm always here, and i'll always be willing to listen.
but this right now? doesn't feel right. i don't wanna force you to talk about something you don't wanna talk about.
sorry i assumed wrong. i guess i just can't understand how someone could be as [ He types naive, thinks, erases it ] optimistic as you after going through whatever.
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i just don't want you underestimating him. like, you gotta know right now i'm 100% sure he reads everything on the network. like EVERYTHING.
[ Cisco wants to say that he's half-convinced Eobard has or will find a way to read private messages and personal inboxes, too, but even he recognizes that is baseless paranoia talking. ]
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[ Neither does Rory. Snart, well. Cisco isn't as worried about him accidentally blowing the whole thing. He might talk a lot of shit but he is deliberate about it. ]
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it's just not great for this particular sitch.
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[ Like... he could, but let's not go there, buddy, pal, that's a dangerous road. ]
i just meant you're an honest guy. and you trust people.
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[ ......okay, maybe that was a bit harsh, Cisco. Dial it back a bit. ]
but i bet you trusted dr. wells before you talked to caitlin didn't you?
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your 'usually' didn't apply. you trusted him and you were wrong.
doesn't surprise me he jumped at the chance to help you. that's totally his m.o. find someone who's hurting or vulnerable and make them trust him and feel like they owe him. then he can use them however he wants.
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i'm sorry.
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[ Because 'it happened twice' is a pretty compelling argument for 'yes, trusting people is incredibly stupid, never do it' ]
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you could say that.
also, he's a complete psycho.
and he played us. just like eobard. you'd think we would've learned the first time. but instead of doing that, we trusted him. he was part of the team. he showed up and said he was the flash on earth-2 and we just believed him. he said he was a hero, but it turned out, not so much.
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I'd rather trust people and be wrong sometimes than not trust anyone and be right sometimes.
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i think it's a lot easier to make that choice from where you're standing. being betrayed like that is something that's never happened to you.
it's happened to me and caitlin and barry TWICE so please do me a favor and don't say shit like that to them. i know you, so i know you don't mean it like that, but it sounds really self-righteous.
i didn't tell you about zoom because i wanted a pep talk about the virtues of learning to trust again, ok? i just... told you because i felt bad about not telling you about dr. wells.
[ Right now he's regretting telling Ray at all. ]
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Look Cisco, you don't know what's happened to me so let's not make any assumptions.
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i'm all ears. or eyes. whatever. tell me about it?
[ Time to put up or shut up. And, y'know, also: if Ray has been through something similar, Cisco would actually want to offer his support. ]
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look i'm not trying to pressure you here, seriously, but you can't have it both ways. you can't accuse me of not knowing stuff about you and then refuse to tell me literally anything about you.
and i mean if i had my way i'd never talk about dr. wells or jay ever again but it's not like i have the luxury of that choice.
you're the one who's preaching the gospel of trust, but i'm the one with all my dirty laundry and shit out in the open and you just get to say 'no thanks'?
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Okay. So do you want specific instances of betrayal or are general traumatic experiences that might shake one's faith in humanity good too?
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nevermind.
i'm not gonna be a part of this.
if sometime you actually honestly feel like opening up and talking to me about stuff, as a friend, you know that i'm always here, and i'll always be willing to listen.
but this right now? doesn't feel right. i don't wanna force you to talk about something you don't wanna talk about.
sorry i assumed wrong. i guess i just can't understand how someone could be as [ He types naive, thinks, erases it ] optimistic as you after going through whatever.
must be you're just a better person than me.
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