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[Because of course.]
shit, I forget you weren't there. My thoughts are still a little jumbled??? Cuz Fisher and Junior also told everyone in all our planes the story so I kinda mix it up.
I made a staff... it's Taako's umbrella. It steals the magic from defeated enemies, and my lich form is like completely arcane energy so I got stuck in my own fucking staff after I died
took me a while to be me again and not just some formless energy
hold on lemme turn on video because it's a bitch to write with mage hand
[...and she does, kind of leaning the camera down so he could se part of her robe and not her face, just in case.]
...and I know you will, Cisco. You're a good friend... and that's what I need the most. This form is sustained by love, and with Barry not here, I need all the closest friends I can get.
[She makes a bleh sound]
Shit, that was sappy.
[Because of course.]
shit, I forget you weren't there. My thoughts are still a little jumbled??? Cuz Fisher and Junior also told everyone in all our planes the story so I kinda mix it up.
I made a staff... it's Taako's umbrella. It steals the magic from defeated enemies, and my lich form is like completely arcane energy so I got stuck in my own fucking staff after I died
took me a while to be me again and not just some formless energy
hold on lemme turn on video because it's a bitch to write with mage hand
[...and she does, kind of leaning the camera down so he could se part of her robe and not her face, just in case.]
...and I know you will, Cisco. You're a good friend... and that's what I need the most. This form is sustained by love, and with Barry not here, I need all the closest friends I can get.
[She makes a bleh sound]
Shit, that was sappy.
Hey, Cisco.
(There's no way to just throw this out there without kind of sounding like she's sticking her nose in it, so Lucretia just decides to go for it. Her messages are a bit disjointed, but only because she knows that if she stopped and deleted and re-typed as she saw fit she'd be here forever.)
I
Taako mentioned in passing that you were being haunted too and
You know the spell you asked me about? It was months ago now, but you asked me about abjuration magic; specifically wards. I know how to do those spells now, so if you
I could cast those for you, if you were looking for some extra protection.
(There's no way to just throw this out there without kind of sounding like she's sticking her nose in it, so Lucretia just decides to go for it. Her messages are a bit disjointed, but only because she knows that if she stopped and deleted and re-typed as she saw fit she'd be here forever.)
I
Taako mentioned in passing that you were being haunted too and
You know the spell you asked me about? It was months ago now, but you asked me about abjuration magic; specifically wards. I know how to do those spells now, so if you
I could cast those for you, if you were looking for some extra protection.
it is in my world. maybe not so much around here.
i'm sure you will. she's very friendly.
i guess it depends on how you define 'by yourself'
i'm from a big city so it's not like i've been by myself in the stuck on a deserted island sense
but even in a place full of people you can end up spending too much time alone
not really having anybody near you who knows you or cares about you or even notices you exist
that kind of thing.
hey, i get that. i just meant in case of emergencies.
i'm sure you will. she's very friendly.
i guess it depends on how you define 'by yourself'
i'm from a big city so it's not like i've been by myself in the stuck on a deserted island sense
but even in a place full of people you can end up spending too much time alone
not really having anybody near you who knows you or cares about you or even notices you exist
that kind of thing.
hey, i get that. i just meant in case of emergencies.
[ Cisco is way more used to hearing about the voidfish in the context of them taking away memories, not telling stories. He's pretty confused how that ended up happening, how it's even possible, but Lup also says she's confused and jumbled, and it's not relevant at the moment. He can ask her later, or Taako or Magnus.
He'd heard bits and pieces of this story, but hearing it from Lup illuminates the remaining details necessary for Cisco to really understand. He doesn't get how the magic of it works, of course. But he accepts the logic as Lup presents it: umbra staff that eats magic from defeated people, Lup being pure magic after getting killed, Lup ending up as formless energy in her own staff. ]
Shit. That's some fucking epic bad luck right there.
[ He doesn't ask how she died, though he does wonder - he's pretty sure that's just him being morbid and nosy and it doesn't matter in the long run. The important thing is that remembering to be herself is apparently an ongoing process, when she's like this. Which is a pretty terrifying thought. Cisco thinks maybe he's going to go to the library and see if he can read up on liches, one of these days, so he doesn't end up asking dumb or painful questions. ]
Well damn, Lup. If it's love that keeps you going in this form, you know I got plenty to spare. You ever need a top up, just hit me up, any time, any place.
[ Cisco is not embarrassed in the slightest by the full-throttle sappiness of that; he's a sappy guy, and he embraced that about himself long ago. He'd spent too many years when he was young trying to stamp it out, to be sharp and cynical and macho in a dozen ways that didn't fit at all. He's done apologizing for being soft and emotional, pretty much permanently.
His voice is quiet and coaxing as he teases: ]
C'mon, you can't tell me that you're a skull on fire now and then hold out on me and not lemme see your dope Ghost Rider face.
[ That shit is going to the top of their to-watch listfourth wall be damned. But even though he's joking, Cisco really doesn't want Lup afraid to even let him see her by camera. She might be playing it off as no big deal, but it's got to be a really hard adjustment. He doesn't want her thinking he likes her any less because she's scary-looking, now. ]
He'd heard bits and pieces of this story, but hearing it from Lup illuminates the remaining details necessary for Cisco to really understand. He doesn't get how the magic of it works, of course. But he accepts the logic as Lup presents it: umbra staff that eats magic from defeated people, Lup being pure magic after getting killed, Lup ending up as formless energy in her own staff. ]
Shit. That's some fucking epic bad luck right there.
[ He doesn't ask how she died, though he does wonder - he's pretty sure that's just him being morbid and nosy and it doesn't matter in the long run. The important thing is that remembering to be herself is apparently an ongoing process, when she's like this. Which is a pretty terrifying thought. Cisco thinks maybe he's going to go to the library and see if he can read up on liches, one of these days, so he doesn't end up asking dumb or painful questions. ]
Well damn, Lup. If it's love that keeps you going in this form, you know I got plenty to spare. You ever need a top up, just hit me up, any time, any place.
[ Cisco is not embarrassed in the slightest by the full-throttle sappiness of that; he's a sappy guy, and he embraced that about himself long ago. He'd spent too many years when he was young trying to stamp it out, to be sharp and cynical and macho in a dozen ways that didn't fit at all. He's done apologizing for being soft and emotional, pretty much permanently.
His voice is quiet and coaxing as he teases: ]
C'mon, you can't tell me that you're a skull on fire now and then hold out on me and not lemme see your dope Ghost Rider face.
[ That shit is going to the top of their to-watch list
Edited 2017-10-05 15:20 (UTC)
I understand. Even with so many people around you, not talking to you only at you, or keeping their distance...it gets lonely. And sometimes, the only company you have is yourself.
[They keep finding things in common, don't they?]
[They keep finding things in common, don't they?]
I know right? I should have fucking thought about that when I made it, but I also kinda didn't think I was gonna get stabbed either. I blew my corporeal form in the last cycle, lucky me.
[She sighs. Lup doesn't even blame the Rockseeker guy for it, honestly. It was her own fault for not paying attention.]
Damn, my man. Gonna make a girl sob or something if she had some fucking tear ducts.
[There was nothing bad about softness, it just wasn't her thing. Cisco is so damn sweet, though, and it makes her soul a little brighter, the memory of her heart a little fuller. Her family was splintered here, but the friends she had made tied it together.
She uses that to be.
Motivated my both is reassurance and the need to show off, Lup finally leans the phone up to show her face.
...well, what was left of it. It's mostly just a soot-charred skull with a glowing light in the eyesockets, and a red hood pulled up over it.
Then there is fire, flames licking up over her skull and forming the outline of what used to be Lup's face - cast in red and orange with the skull barely seen beneath.]
You can applaud now, my dude.
[She sighs. Lup doesn't even blame the Rockseeker guy for it, honestly. It was her own fault for not paying attention.]
Damn, my man. Gonna make a girl sob or something if she had some fucking tear ducts.
[There was nothing bad about softness, it just wasn't her thing. Cisco is so damn sweet, though, and it makes her soul a little brighter, the memory of her heart a little fuller. Her family was splintered here, but the friends she had made tied it together.
She uses that to be.
Motivated my both is reassurance and the need to show off, Lup finally leans the phone up to show her face.
...well, what was left of it. It's mostly just a soot-charred skull with a glowing light in the eyesockets, and a red hood pulled up over it.
Then there is fire, flames licking up over her skull and forming the outline of what used to be Lup's face - cast in red and orange with the skull barely seen beneath.]
You can applaud now, my dude.
sounds like you know exactly what i'm talking about.
[ It's sad, thinking someone as nice as her would have gone through something as lonely as that, but it's also kind of a relief not to have to explain any further. To just know that she gets it, and has clearly been in the same place herself. ]
you get used to it though.
people actually seeing you and caring. having friends. relying on people. takes a while, but you do.
[ It's sad, thinking someone as nice as her would have gone through something as lonely as that, but it's also kind of a relief not to have to explain any further. To just know that she gets it, and has clearly been in the same place herself. ]
you get used to it though.
people actually seeing you and caring. having friends. relying on people. takes a while, but you do.
[ Cisco had explicitly told Taako that he didn't mind if he mentioned anything about Eobard and the whole ghost stalker situation to anyone, but it's still a surprising message to get, particularly when things have still been a touch weird between him and Lucretia. But he's kind of touched that she even remembers that early conversation, considering everything that's happened since. ]
taako already fixed me up with some anti-ghost wards for my workshop, and my apartment's sort of in a spot where ghosts have a hard time getting to i guess
but i think he's still working out a way to ward me like when i'm going from place to place.
the ghost that's been following me is kind of persistent. and also kind of a creep.
do you know of any way to like... make a warding spell mobile?
[ Then, because he saw that too and it could mean Taako or Lucretia, in the context, and because he's curious, he asks: ]
the ghosts been giving you any trouble?
taako already fixed me up with some anti-ghost wards for my workshop, and my apartment's sort of in a spot where ghosts have a hard time getting to i guess
but i think he's still working out a way to ward me like when i'm going from place to place.
the ghost that's been following me is kind of persistent. and also kind of a creep.
do you know of any way to like... make a warding spell mobile?
[ Then, because he saw that too and it could mean Taako or Lucretia, in the context, and because he's curious, he asks: ]
the ghosts been giving you any trouble?
You... got stabbed?
[ He doesn't mean to ask it; he wouldn't have, if they were still communicating by text. But the words just slip out, concerned and quiet. If it had been in that last cycle, that means it couldn't have been the Hunger. And for some reason, that strikes Cisco as being much worse. At least with the Hunger it seemed like it was something they'd all gotten used to, more or less. ]
Well, long as it's a good kind of sob, I think I can live with that.
[ Cisco braces himself for how she'll look, but it's a lot different than he'd pictured. In that brief flash of the battle between Taako, and Barry and Lup and the Hunger, when that creepy elevator had shown up, he hadn't really gotten a close look at Lup. He'd been too preoccupied with everything else going on, and she'd been too busy raining down fiery destruction on the shadowy figures all around them.
He is glad, now, that she had contacted him like this, given him warning. The skull and fire are kind of scary and kind of cool, but it's the outline of her face the way that it had been when she was alive that throws him. If she were totally unrecognizable, in a way it would be easier. But he can still see Lup's face there, just translucently.
So he does applaud, but it's just a fraction delayed. He claps for a few seconds and then, wondering if it's the right move but too worried not to ask, he blurts out: ]
It doesn't hurt, right? Being a lich? I mean... you're not in pain or... anything?
[ He doesn't mean to ask it; he wouldn't have, if they were still communicating by text. But the words just slip out, concerned and quiet. If it had been in that last cycle, that means it couldn't have been the Hunger. And for some reason, that strikes Cisco as being much worse. At least with the Hunger it seemed like it was something they'd all gotten used to, more or less. ]
Well, long as it's a good kind of sob, I think I can live with that.
[ Cisco braces himself for how she'll look, but it's a lot different than he'd pictured. In that brief flash of the battle between Taako, and Barry and Lup and the Hunger, when that creepy elevator had shown up, he hadn't really gotten a close look at Lup. He'd been too preoccupied with everything else going on, and she'd been too busy raining down fiery destruction on the shadowy figures all around them.
He is glad, now, that she had contacted him like this, given him warning. The skull and fire are kind of scary and kind of cool, but it's the outline of her face the way that it had been when she was alive that throws him. If she were totally unrecognizable, in a way it would be easier. But he can still see Lup's face there, just translucently.
So he does applaud, but it's just a fraction delayed. He claps for a few seconds and then, wondering if it's the right move but too worried not to ask, he blurts out: ]
It doesn't hurt, right? Being a lich? I mean... you're not in pain or... anything?
Cisco, sweetface. It doesn't hurt. I promise.
[She has to let him know that first, because she could almost feel his worry through the damn phone, the way he's just blurting out his thoughts like this.]
I can't feel much of anything, honestly. Which is a fucking relief in some ways, because yeah, I got my dumb ass stabbed - or more like, sliced? I got this dwarf guy opening this secret vault for me so I could hide my relic, but he got into the thrall of the stupid thing and knifed me.
[She shrugs, like it was nothing. The IPRE was far to flippant about their deaths, but this one was... well. The last one.]
It wasn't even a lethal cut or anything, so I blasted him through the door to the vault and locked him in. Buuuuuut the blade was kinda poisoned? That's how cha girl died, like a fucking moron on a cave floor.
[She has to let him know that first, because she could almost feel his worry through the damn phone, the way he's just blurting out his thoughts like this.]
I can't feel much of anything, honestly. Which is a fucking relief in some ways, because yeah, I got my dumb ass stabbed - or more like, sliced? I got this dwarf guy opening this secret vault for me so I could hide my relic, but he got into the thrall of the stupid thing and knifed me.
[She shrugs, like it was nothing. The IPRE was far to flippant about their deaths, but this one was... well. The last one.]
It wasn't even a lethal cut or anything, so I blasted him through the door to the vault and locked him in. Buuuuuut the blade was kinda poisoned? That's how cha girl died, like a fucking moron on a cave floor.
Edited 2017-10-05 23:38 (UTC)
[Most people wouldn't get any kind of explanation, about things like this, but Cisco is not most people and Taako feels like he should... tell him, about why he reacted so poorly to the topic of his own hauntings.]
The ghosts from Glamorsprings are here, the ones Sazed killed.
[It lacks the usual rambling or flourishes that Taako would put in a text, which says... a lot.]
The ghosts from Glamorsprings are here, the ones Sazed killed.
[It lacks the usual rambling or flourishes that Taako would put in a text, which says... a lot.]
[It's sad that both of them have gone through almost the exact same thing, but at least Rey knows there's someone else who understands. At least Cisco won't try to enter her mind and use that against her.]
I got used to it for a few people, now...it's like starting back at the beginning.
It was still surprising to know someone cares--not about what use you are to them, but that they care for you, nothing else. No ill motives or anything else.
I got used to it for a few people, now...it's like starting back at the beginning.
It was still surprising to know someone cares--not about what use you are to them, but that they care for you, nothing else. No ill motives or anything else.
[ The text isn't exactly a surprise. It had been obvious something was up that Taako wasn't telling him, and Cisco gets why saying it via text is easier, feels safer for Taako. He knows that amongst all the bad things that have happened in Taako's life, Glamorsprings is one of the worst, at least in terms of how much it had impacted him. ]
fuck
[ With some people Cisco would hold back that initial response, wait to think up something very careful and thoughtful and supportive. But Taako's Taako and Cisco figures he'll appreciate honesty more. ]
did you spot them somewhere in a crowd or are they following you?
can you make a ward for yourself for a bit like you did for me?
[ But Taako didn't tell him because he wanted Cisco to have pragmatic ways of fixing it - he told him because it's awful and Cisco's his friend. ]
i'm so sorry, dude.
you shouldn't have to go through this
fuck
[ With some people Cisco would hold back that initial response, wait to think up something very careful and thoughtful and supportive. But Taako's Taako and Cisco figures he'll appreciate honesty more. ]
did you spot them somewhere in a crowd or are they following you?
can you make a ward for yourself for a bit like you did for me?
[ But Taako didn't tell him because he wanted Cisco to have pragmatic ways of fixing it - he told him because it's awful and Cisco's his friend. ]
i'm so sorry, dude.
you shouldn't have to go through this
They seem to like, leave if I tell them what happened, I guess they're after answers more than making me feel shitty or whatever.
[Not that he doesn't feel shitty, but... they're not malicious, really.]
[Not that he doesn't feel shitty, but... they're not malicious, really.]
Okay. Okay... good.
[ Lup might gloss over some things, might avoid talking about this or that, but he doesn't think that she would say I promise like that if it were an outright lie. Not feeling much of anything doesn't sound great, but it's better than if she were in constant agony. ]
Is there a way... is it permanent?
[ What he wants to know is, is Lup going to be stuck like this indefinitely, since there are no cycles to reset here, and she technically is dead. He wonders if there is anything he can do, scientifically. To make it easier for her to remember herself, or to make it so she could at least feel some good things - chow down on some ice cream now and then, or bask in the sun on a warm day.
He listens to her recounting her death, face growing more and more solemn. It's unusual, to hear her insult herself, much less twice in about a minute. And the story itself is hard for him to think about flippantly. Even the epic, badass, fighting-for-all-reality deaths he'd heard about from the IPRE crew bothered him, but this one is much more familiar, feels much more real and horrible to him. ]
Somebody stabbing you in the back doesn't make you a fucking moron, Lup. You didn't get yourself killed, you just. Were killed.
[ It might seem like a small matter of semantics, but Cisco is insistent. From the sound of it she's blaming herself for it and he is not about that. ]
I'm real sorry that happened.
[ Lup might gloss over some things, might avoid talking about this or that, but he doesn't think that she would say I promise like that if it were an outright lie. Not feeling much of anything doesn't sound great, but it's better than if she were in constant agony. ]
Is there a way... is it permanent?
[ What he wants to know is, is Lup going to be stuck like this indefinitely, since there are no cycles to reset here, and she technically is dead. He wonders if there is anything he can do, scientifically. To make it easier for her to remember herself, or to make it so she could at least feel some good things - chow down on some ice cream now and then, or bask in the sun on a warm day.
He listens to her recounting her death, face growing more and more solemn. It's unusual, to hear her insult herself, much less twice in about a minute. And the story itself is hard for him to think about flippantly. Even the epic, badass, fighting-for-all-reality deaths he'd heard about from the IPRE crew bothered him, but this one is much more familiar, feels much more real and horrible to him. ]
Somebody stabbing you in the back doesn't make you a fucking moron, Lup. You didn't get yourself killed, you just. Were killed.
[ It might seem like a small matter of semantics, but Cisco is insistent. From the sound of it she's blaming herself for it and he is not about that. ]
I'm real sorry that happened.
it's still totally fucked up
[ Which Taako knows, of course, but it bears repeating. ]
is it... helping to be able to explain?
or is it just bad?
[ He can't really imagine being in the same position, so he doesn't know if having a chance to explain that he wasn't responsible is ultimately cathartic for Taako, or whether the whole thing is just a total draining awful shitshow. ]
[ Which Taako knows, of course, but it bears repeating. ]
is it... helping to be able to explain?
or is it just bad?
[ He can't really imagine being in the same position, so he doesn't know if having a chance to explain that he wasn't responsible is ultimately cathartic for Taako, or whether the whole thing is just a total draining awful shitshow. ]
yeah. that's tough.
but for what it's worth, the people here are... really good for the most part
i mean better on the whole than back on earth anyway.
i get that.
tho people with ill motives sometimes hide them
i mean i know you probably know that you're a smart gal
i'm just saying you gotta find a balance between letting yourself be open to people and keeping yourself safe
cause there are people out there who will try to use how happy you are to finally have a friend against you
and i realize saying this is like saying 'don't automatically trust new people if they seem nice' and i'm a new (nice?) person
but you don't need to trust me right away
i'm gonna prove to you that i'm worth trusting
but for what it's worth, the people here are... really good for the most part
i mean better on the whole than back on earth anyway.
i get that.
tho people with ill motives sometimes hide them
i mean i know you probably know that you're a smart gal
i'm just saying you gotta find a balance between letting yourself be open to people and keeping yourself safe
cause there are people out there who will try to use how happy you are to finally have a friend against you
and i realize saying this is like saying 'don't automatically trust new people if they seem nice' and i'm a new (nice?) person
but you don't need to trust me right away
i'm gonna prove to you that i'm worth trusting
Edited 2017-10-06 02:47 (UTC)
It's not really anything, they're not real, they're echoes or shades or something
[It doesn't alleviate any guilt, it just makes him feel horrible, but he's not about to admit that.]
They've got fucking bad timing though
[It doesn't alleviate any guilt, it just makes him feel horrible, but he's not about to admit that.]
They've got fucking bad timing though
[ So that's a no, basically. ]
wouldn't any timing kind of be bad timing, considering?
wouldn't any timing kind of be bad timing, considering?
Not showing up when a dude I like is around would've been way more fucking convenient
[He's never letting this go, he's so embarrassed.]
[He's never letting this go, he's so embarrassed.]
I don't know. I haven't met everyone here. I can't say who I can really trust yet--Poe, yes, and another. And you. I don't sense ill will from you, Cisco.
It's...difficult to explain. And I know, there's dangers and all that stuff. I've already had someone try to hurt my friends and tried to then against me. It's, it's hard to think there isn't some alternative behind a friendship, I want to believe in it. I really do, but, it's difficult when you've been hurt before, you know?
It's...difficult to explain. And I know, there's dangers and all that stuff. I've already had someone try to hurt my friends and tried to then against me. It's, it's hard to think there isn't some alternative behind a friendship, I want to believe in it. I really do, but, it's difficult when you've been hurt before, you know?
shit, that happened?
what did you do? i probably would've just... run away.
what did you do? i probably would've just... run away.
In retrospect I should've just dipped out, wizard style, but I wasn't really thinking that far ahead
[AKA he pretty much shut down and Rin had to hold his hand and take him home.]
[AKA he pretty much shut down and Rin had to hold his hand and take him home.]
(It's nice that he feels that way about it, because Lucretia, of course, feels the complete opposite: a little guilty for only just remembering he had asked for her assistance. Hopefully better late than never?)
Okay, cool. I might come and check them out if you don't mind? Not that I don't think he did a good job, just to see if I can add anything on top. This specialisation of magic is sort of my jam, so.
But yeah, I could do something like that. Wards have to be re-cast every twenty-four hours though so you may find that a bit irritating, but other than that I'd be more than happy to hook you up.
Nah, just. You know, lurking out of the corner of my eye and disappearing when I try to get a better look. A standard b grade horror movie experience.
Okay, cool. I might come and check them out if you don't mind? Not that I don't think he did a good job, just to see if I can add anything on top. This specialisation of magic is sort of my jam, so.
But yeah, I could do something like that. Wards have to be re-cast every twenty-four hours though so you may find that a bit irritating, but other than that I'd be more than happy to hook you up.
Nah, just. You know, lurking out of the corner of my eye and disappearing when I try to get a better look. A standard b grade horror movie experience.
i do know.
it's brave to try and believe in friendship i think
even when it's hard
especially when it's hard
[ He hadn't really been planning on going into this, and he's not going to give much detail, but... it's not exactly a secret, either. Maybe he wouldn't bring it up if he weren't alone and a bit tired and waiting for Eddie to come back, but he taps out and send quickly before he can change his mind. ]
i used to trust people a lot more
it didn't go great
so i'm still working on finding that balance, myself
it's brave to try and believe in friendship i think
even when it's hard
especially when it's hard
[ He hadn't really been planning on going into this, and he's not going to give much detail, but... it's not exactly a secret, either. Maybe he wouldn't bring it up if he weren't alone and a bit tired and waiting for Eddie to come back, but he taps out and send quickly before he can change his mind. ]
i used to trust people a lot more
it didn't go great
so i'm still working on finding that balance, myself
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