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[franciscoramon]

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[billionerd]

Everything? Including the whole thing about time remnants, which let me tell you, isn't how time-travel should work.

[franciscoramon]

everything? you sure? i can... if you have questions i guess i can fill in the gaps, if there are any.

maybe speedster time travel is different from time master time travel. different rules.

[billionerd]

Yeah, I worked it out with Caitlin. Time working a certain way in order to keep timelines consistent.

Rip would probably be able to explain it, but Rip's a secretive jerk too.

[franciscoramon]

okay cool

i woulda told you, man. i wanted to. i almost did a couple times. but... look i know it's a cliche-ass excuse but i was trying to keep you safe

[billionerd]

plus, I made my association with known criminals known publicly early on. I'm really not angry I wasn't told.

[franciscoramon]

it wasn't because of that.

even if you're not angry i feel like i owe you an apology man.

how'd it even come up?

[billionerd]

Caitlin needed to talk, I'm a good listener. She didn't know I didn't know.

And you don't have to apologize. It's not your fault.

[franciscoramon]

cool

[ It's decidedly not cool - that Caitlin is going through what she's going through, or that Cisco hadn't made it clear who was and wasn't privy to the Eobard secret and had maybe inadvertently put her and Ray in more danger. But sometimes 'cool' is all you can say. ]

we didn't find out until after your visit to central city.

actually i think... barry might've had some idea by that point. maybe.

are you planning on saying anything to your team? cuz if he finds out people have been talking, he will kill someone. or a lot of someones.

[billionerd]

no one is killing anyone. we're a lot smarter than we look.

[franciscoramon]

being smart and being discreet aren't always the same thing.

i just don't want you underestimating him. like, you gotta know right now i'm 100% sure he reads everything on the network. like EVERYTHING.

[ Cisco wants to say that he's half-convinced Eobard has or will find a way to read private messages and personal inboxes, too, but even he recognizes that is baseless paranoia talking. ]

[billionerd]

I don't bring up sensitive subjects on the network. And I usually talk to my team in person anyway, I promise it's okay.

1/2

[franciscoramon]

no offense, dude, but you don't seem like a guy who's good at keeping dangerous secrets.

[ Neither does Rory. Snart, well. Cisco isn't as worried about him accidentally blowing the whole thing. He might talk a lot of shit but he is deliberate about it. ]

2/2

[franciscoramon]

i mean that as a compliment.

it's just not great for this particular sitch.

[billionerd]

What dangerous secret have I slipped on lately?

[franciscoramon]

don't ask me to pull receipts man, that'll just make me feel like a dick.

[ Like... he could, but let's not go there, buddy, pal, that's a dangerous road. ]

i just meant you're an honest guy. and you trust people.

[billionerd]

my trust is usually well-placed.

[franciscoramon]

well how nice for you

[ ......okay, maybe that was a bit harsh, Cisco. Dial it back a bit. ]

but i bet you trusted dr. wells before you talked to caitlin didn't you?

[billionerd]

I talked to him, he picked me up after I was beaten in Russian prison. Kinda hard not to trust.

[franciscoramon]

you see what i'm getting at though right ray

your 'usually' didn't apply. you trusted him and you were wrong.

doesn't surprise me he jumped at the chance to help you. that's totally his m.o. find someone who's hurting or vulnerable and make them trust him and feel like they owe him. then he can use them however he wants.

[billionerd]

i get it. i have a better picture of what's life been for you guys the past few months.

i'm sorry.

[franciscoramon]

i wasn't looking for sympathy. i'm just saying... don't be as stupid as i used to be.

[billionerd]

being trusting isn't stupid, Cisco.

[franciscoramon]

how much did caitlin tell you about zoom

[ Because 'it happened twice' is a pretty compelling argument for 'yes, trusting people is incredibly stupid, never do it' ]

[billionerd]

It was Eddie who warned me, actually. And not much? Evil speedster with nebulous motivations about being the best?

[franciscoramon]

[ Fuck. Does he really have to do this speech. Really. Does he have to go over it again? Then again, Caitlin should definitely not have to go through that. Barry either. And Harry just plain won't so. Looks like it's Cisco's job. ]

you could say that.

also, he's a complete psycho.

and he played us. just like eobard. you'd think we would've learned the first time. but instead of doing that, we trusted him. he was part of the team. he showed up and said he was the flash on earth-2 and we just believed him. he said he was a hero, but it turned out, not so much.